Upward 40 degree curved penis with Peyronie's disease, 22 year-old thinks sex is over and mentions suicide

I am 22 years old, i was messing around with a girl (not having sex) but, she got turned on and thrusted down on me and her pelvic bone hit on the end of my erect penis and it hurt momentarily and i thought nothing of it and went on with business. When we finally had sex the next week and i felt smaller but just shrugged it off to a bad day. Then it still seemed to stay smaller and it began to hurt.

After 2 months of it hurting when i got an erection and noticing a bend in the middle i scheduled an appointment with a Urologist and wasn't too worried because i figured no matter the cost it would be fixable and i have an upcoming deployment so i would have the money to pay for any reconstructive surgery (which i looked up and found out there is nothing to fix it!).

I went to the urologist appointment and he said real quick it was Peyronie's disease and explained what i injured, to take vitamin E and just it will heal but i'll lose length and girth and will be more liable to injure it further in the future then he abruptly left the room and that was it.

The past week since my visit i have been scouring the internet and becoming very depressed and have been contemplating suicide ( seen another 22 year old post similar which made me feel as i should ask for help also) i have a 40 degree upward bend, the top of my dick when flaccid has a hard feeling to it, sort of a elongated lump. I feel about 3/4 to an inch smaller and much thinner. Also weaker erection but, that has started since the diagnosis which i believe is more mental that actual physical condition. But just a quick prelude, when having sex with girls for the first time i've always been shy and would struggle to hold an erection the first time or two until i was comfortable. Had a good sexual relationship with the girl before and was almost always ready to go no problem, and then that ended and after finally having confidence in my sexual self, i hurt myself and feel i'm ruined forever.

Greetings young man,

No, you are not ruined forever.  You are only ruined if you allow yourself to be ruined.  But, you are too good for that; you have already proven that you are too good to allow Peyronie's disease to ruin you because you have already started to take steps to take care of yourself and to learn about this ugly problem.  You have already showed me in your email that you will be one of those who survives Peyronie's disease one way or the other.

However, it sure as hell is true you are deeply scarred; you are also confused about this mystery condition that came out of the blue to hit you when you weren't looking; you are also shocked at how little the medical profession has to offer you; and you are also upset at the cold and indifferent way the urologist treated you.  When you put all these powerful negative emotions together it can rattle your thinking and put you mentally and emotionally off-balance for just a little bit.  Because of this you have allowed yourself to think about suicide for maybe the first time in your life.   How do I know you are feeling this way?  I experienced something similar when I developed PD in 2002.  In fact the majority of the thousands of men I have communicated with about PD have felt just like you, and have thought many of those same black thoughts.  When you have a lousy medical experience with Peyronie's disease like you did – just like almost all men do – you can understandably have an almost identical emotional reaction – just like almost all men do. The difference is that only a few men are honest enough to talk about it.

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What you must do now is get busy to help yourself because you already know there is very little help for you from the medical side.  Most MDs are rather indifferent to the plight of the men they diagnose with Peyronie's disease.  In your reading and investigation of the PDI website I am sure you have come across the information by now that is repeated many times about 50% of men who develop PD getting over it  (spontaneous remission of Peyronie's disease) without any outside help at all. The message of the Peyronie's Disease Institute is that you always have the option of improving your odds of recovery by supporting your natural ability to heal PD like those lucky guys who do it naturally.   In fact, you could be one of those men and you just do not know it at this time.  There is much you can do to support the natural tendency of the body to always do the most it can to heal and recover to the best of  its ability.

You admit that you are a shy person.  Many times shyness comes from insecurity and lack of confidence that are rooted in past childhood issues.   There is nothing like being naked in front of someone for the first time to test your self-confidence and personal comfort.  Now that PD is an issue these insecurities and self-doubts are challenged even more.   This is a vitally important and complex subject that is central to the negative emotions that so many men feel when they first deal with Peyronie's disease.   I want to say many things to help you with this subject but my time and space is limited.  I strongly encourage you to get one of the books I wrote that I think will help you greatly, “Peyronie's Disease and Sex.”  There are so many helpful topics covered in this book that I am confident will help you think your way through your self-doubts.  Hopefully reading it will guide you to the other end of the problem at which time you will feel differently about having Peyronies disease.  If it does happen that you continue to have thoughts of suicide it is important that you talk to someone you trust for help and advice.

At the end of your email you said”…I hurt myself…”  Actually, that is only partially true.  The truth is that you put yourself in a dangerous situation and you allowed someone else to hurt your penis.  This happened because you did not know any better because you and 99% of the men in the world do not know about Peyronie's disease until they developed it.  If men do not know about PD, you can imagine that women are even more ignorant of it.  Therefore, it is likely that in your life you will never meet a woman who understands how dangerous it is for a man to be jammed and smashed down by her when he is erect.  You know; she never will.  Therefore, it is not up to you to deliver any lecture about PD and sex safety.  But, it is up to you to be smart; do not ever again allow a young lady to get that close to you when you are erect when she could duplicate that kind of injury. You must select a different range of safer sexual positions in which you are more in control of sexual activity, or at least learn to hold on to her waist so that you can limit how far back she can move to avoid a similar injury.

Please contact me again if you need help of any kind and I will do all that I can for you.  TRH 

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Have you heard of Peyronie’s disease returning after reinjury during sex?

Hi Dr. Herazy –

My name is Chad, and I’ve had Peyronies about 4 years. I purchased some of your products to treat Peyronies about 3 years ago. I used them and saw great improvement (I only had a slight curve). Each year I seemed to be getting better until suddenly, about 2 weeks ago, I’ve started having much more difficulty getting and maintaining erections. Also, I’ve had some odd sensations throughout the day, and I seem to have a bit more of a curve. I’m feeling nervous that I may have agitated or reinjured it. Have you heard of this happening before?

Thanks,

Chad

 

Greetings Chad,

Yes, it is possible to re-injure  yourself again; if you did it once, you can do it twice. 

I suggest that you begin treatment again because the odd sensations you mention and return of penile curvature could be due to aggravation due to a intercourse-related injury.  It might also be wise for you to consider using some type of penile prosthesis or support that can work to provide an added level of protection during the rigors of intercourse.  bear in mind that none of these devices is foolproof and re-injury while using one of the penis supports we offer at the PDI store  is still possible.   It is always necessary to use common sense and good judgement in regard to how you conduct yourself during intercourse.

It might also be a good idea to get “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex” that will provide considerable information about how to avoid doing this again.  

Please let me know if you need some assistance in getting started this second time around.  TRH

What is the best way to take Male X Booster sex stimulant?

When taking the Male X  Booster sexual stimulant every other day do you need to add vitamin E to your diet?   Can you take Male X Booster once daily?   Thank you.

Greetings,

No, as far as improving sexual function is concerned, you do not need to take vitamin E if you are taking Male X Booster.  But you would want to take vitamin E as an important part of your Peyronie's treatment plan.   Yes, you can take Male X Booster once daily. 

There are many reasons why someone with Peyronie’s disease will develop some level of a sex problem, sooner or later.  The pain and distortion associated with Peyronies disease are not the only factors that can start sexual problems.  Reduced rigidity caused by the presence of the Peyronies plaque, feeling self-conscious about the loss of length and circumference that come with PD, fear of re-injury during intercourse, frustration of attempting intercourse with a bent or hinged penis – all these can and do cause real sexual challenges for the couple who deals with Peyronie's disease.  

For those men who simply need a little assistance with the quality of their erection, PDI has a collected a great selection of herbal formulas that can do the job nicely. Each has been found over time to work better than most on the market.  Not all of them work for everyone – that would be asking too much.  Based on many years of experience working with PD couples, this group of sex enhancers has proven to address the needs of almost all men.  Male X Booster is one of those great sex stimulants we work with.

For Male X Booster you begin by taking the dosage as provided on the label.   If you can develop good improvement with your sexual performance by taking daily, then by all means take it that way.  Some men take slightly more than that in order to see good results.  You want to experiment a bit to learn with any of these sex stimulants to see what works best for you.   Not everyone will respond the same way as you do, so learn what works best based on your needs.  

All you have to do is be patient with yourself and your partner, experiment to discover which herbal formula works best for you, and follow the instructions given below

  1. Use Stimulin as the first step in developing your sex enhancement plan.  This is a source of nitric oxide and is essential in developing and improving sexual performance.
    1. Use it, as instructed, for about 2-3 weeks, and see how much it helps.  It might not be necessary to use any other product to help your situation.
    2. If you are not satisfied after using Stimulin by itself, then continue with Stimulin and add an herbal sex enhancer (Male X Booster, ITI Man, etc.) you will find on the PDI website.
  2. If possible, get a few different products.  Experiment to discover the one that works best for you.
  3. Use each herbal sex enhancer as instructed.  Each has different instructions, because each has a different purpose, a different formula, and different strengths.
  4. Give up your anger, embarrassment and feelings of inferiority related to PD.  If you cannot do this, get Dr. Herazy’s book, “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex.”  If you still have a problem, call him for assistance; he is an expert in this area.  
  5. Be patient with her, and be patient with yourself.  This is a big problem to work through, and you should not make it worse for each other by being insensitive or unreasonable.

                       

Which PDI treatment plan would be beneficial to my Peyronie’s disease?

I had been having problems with pain upon erection and lumps along the shaft of my penis for several months and then I started having a lot more pain.

I went to a urologist who initially told me he couldn't find anything abnormal but during a subsequent follow-up visit he told me that I have Peyronies Disease and that the lumps were plaque formation and there wasn't much I could do about it. He advised oral Vitamin E (which I take religiously) and waiting to see if it got better without injections or Peyronie's surgery.

I had never heard of this disease so I have been researching it. I do not have any obvious outward sign like scars or any curvature but I can feel the plaque deposits and have very painful erections.  Sometimes there is pain even without erections. I don't remember having any specific injury or trauma to my penis during sex but sex definitely makes the pain worse. I am really worried that although there is no curvature now, there will be if I follow the doctor's "wait and see" plan.

I already feel a "pulling upward" sensation with erections. I would like to know which of your treatment plans would likely be most beneficial to me. The biggest problem is the pain and the lumps that seem to produce this "tugging or pulling" feeling. My first thought is to jump in with both feet into the most aggressive treatment you have but maybe that is not the correct thing to do. I would really appreciate any guidance you can give me.

Greetings,

Thank you for your question.

You must stop doing anything that causes your Peyronie's disease to be more painful.  Pain indicates that you are again stressing the deep plaque or scar tissue of your Peyronies, and this is harmful and will delay your recovery.  This does not specifically mean stopping sexual intercourse; it only implies you must determine what you  are doing during intercourse, or how you engage in intercourse, that causes physical stress upon the penile tissue and change that aspect of your technique.   This is a huge, diverse and important subject, and for this reason I suggest you should consult a book I wrote, "Peyronie's Disease and Sex."    

Taking vitamin E by itself, or taking the wrong kind of vitamin E, no matter how religiously you take it will not help your PD.  You must use the right type of vitamin E, take it at the right time and in combination with other important therapies for it to help your problem.  Please refer to the section in the PDI website about vitamin E that covers this important subject. 

Penile distortion can occur immediately in Peyronie's disease, but it can also take months or years to develop.  Further,  I have communicated with many men whose PD distortion suddenly worsened after being static for a few years.  For this reason you must not assume your problem will always look the way it looks at this time; they usually worsen over time.    

No one can tell you ahead of time which PD plan will work best for you.   Please read "Do you simply recommend the same treatment products to all Peyronies cases?"   You will then understand that all treatment must be unique and driven by specific response of your Peyronie's plaque or scar.  Lastly, it would appear that you think that the Peyronie's scar is located on surface of the shaft; it is not.     The Peyronies plaque and scar are terms for the same fibrous material that is found deep within the penis below the skin surface; in the world of PD the scar and plaque mean the same thing.  The scar or plaque are not visible from the exterior since they are internal.

 Let me know if I can help you in any way with eliminating your PD scar with Alternative Medicine.  TRH    

Am I cheating on my wife?

Greetings Dr Herazy, 

I was wondering.  Since my penis has been bent over 70 degrees for the last few years of my Peyronies, my wife and I are not having any intercourse.  During this time, every now I have been masturbating without my wife's knowledge.  Am I cheating on her? 

Paul

Greetings Paul,

No, you are just keeping the pilot light burning for her benefit later. 

You owe it to her to be less shy and more creative.  You know, you are not the only one that needs sex every now and then. She is probably feeling lonely and neglected.  I encourage you to include her in your private efforts and maybe you two can share some favors. There is a world of sexual adventure and satisfaction for a married couple outside of traditional intercourse.  I go into all these areas in my book "Peyronie's Disease and Sex."   Don't be so selfish.  

The important goal is to get over your Peyronie's disease so you no longer have this limitation.  Stay focused on your PD treatment, please. TRH  

How do I help my husband deal with his reduced interest in sex since he developed Peyronie’s disease?

Doctor,

My husband was diagnosed with Peyronie’s disease a little more than two years ago but is not doing anything about it.  His doctor told him there is nothing to do for his condition except surgery, so he has just shut down.  He will not talk to me about his severe curvature and he refuses to discuss how we are going to continue like this.  In fact, over the last few months he is talking to me less and less.  We have not had intimate relations since all this started.

Of course I am worried about his physical condition, but I also see him becoming more isolated and quick to get angry and this makes me worried for him.  He is a good man and we had a great relationship before this happened. 

I see that your attitude and approach is so much different about this problem that I hope you can help us.  How do I help my husband deal with his lack of interest in sexual activity since he first developed Peyronie’s disease?

Harriet

P.S.  Thanks for helping others.

 

Greetings Harriet,

Sorry to learn that your husband has withdrawn from his problem, but this is actually a very common situation.  Many men respond this way when they develop Peyronie’s disease.  I know so because I receive emails all the time from worried wives that report the same thing you are going through. Peyronie’s disease can be very stressful and confusing for the man who gets it, but also for his wife who desperately wants to help and does not know how. It can hurt a lot.

This subject is broad and deep.  In fact, because it is so common and important in PD treatment I devoted a considerable portion of the 2nd book I wrote to this area of the relationship of any couple dealing with PD.  I suggest you go to the PDI website and order the book, “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex” to learn what you can do to help your husband, because there is actually a lot you can do.   I know this book will help you to understand what is going on inside him, and what you can do now to bridge the gap between you.

From considerable past experience I can tell you that his lack of communication with you, and his withdrawal from sexual contact, are all related to fear and shame.   Become more knowledgeable about Peyronie’s disease; learn some of the more technical terms and concepts; learn about natural PD treatment; memorize just a few facts about PD.  The very next time you are given a natural and appropriate opportunity to mention something about PD, include some of this new technical information in your conversation.  Talk about Peyronie’s disease and the treatment ideas you learned on the PDI website.  Do not talk about or mention what is going on with him.  Do not make it personal at this time; make the conversational general so he is not made to feel any more uncomfortable than necessary,   Just the fact that you suddenly know these things will tell him that you are on his side, and that you now know a few things that might help him.  Slowly draw him out this way. If he asks, show him the PDI website and show him how to explore it.

If you can make him aware that there is actually a reasonable and effective approach to Peyronie’s treatment that his MD did not know about, you can give your husband a a reason to get excited about overcoming his problem.  This approach has helped save other marriages and could help you also.

Let me know if you have any specific questions I can assist you with.    TRH


Peyronie’s Disease and Masturbation

Masturbation prominently factors into Peyronie’s disease.   A man will either cause his own Peyronie’s problem when he abusively or violently masturbates , or later as he attempts to cope with the growing sexual frustration and limitation created by  the curved penis of his Peyronie’s disease.

Masturbation is the self-stimulation of the female or male genitals to arouse sexual pleasure, usually to the point of orgasm or sexual climax.  It is commonly performed by touching, stroking, or in some way pleasurably stimulating the penis or clitoris until orgasm occurs.

Peyronie’s disease intersects with masturbation in particular for several reasons:

  1. Older boys and men of all ages can injure themselves during rough masturbation rituals with the potential to lead to Peyronie’s disease, especially if genetically predisposed to develop PD.
  2. Men who are unable or too embarrassed to expose their deformity to their sexual partner often resort to masturbation to release sexual tension, and perhaps in a negative mindset will be abusive to themselves.
  3. Men who are unable to engage in sexual intercourse because of severe penile distortions can receive masturbation from them partner as a way to share sexual pleasure, serving as a substitute for traditional intercourse.
  4. Women who are denied sexual intercourse because of a partner’s severe penile distortion or erectile dysfunction related to Peyronie’s disease can be masturbated as a way to share sexual pleasure, as a substitute for traditional intercourse.
  5. Women who are denied sexual intercourse because of her partner’s emotional and physical withdrawal, thus isolated from the man with Peyronie’s disease, can use masturbation to release sexual tension while he is working out his own problems.

General masturbation comments

At one time or another or all life long, just about everyone masturbates – male and female.  It is an extremely common behavior, even among people with access to sexual intercourse and other erotic outlets with a partner. While in one national study 95% of males and 89% of females reported they have masturbated, those who reported they had never masturbated admitted they would be reluctant to admit it if they did – thus these numbers are probably low.

For young children masturbation is a normal part of youthful exploration, often becoming the first sexual act. Most people continue to masturbate in adulthood, and many do so throughout their lives.  The most common explanation given why people limit or avoid masturbation is the shame and guilt that arises from religious and societal pressure.

Once regarded as a perversion and sign of a mental problem, masturbation is now seen as a normal, healthy sexual activity that is pleasant, fulfilling, acceptable, and safe. Masturbation is only considered a problem under certain circumstances:

  1. Directly or indirectly inhibits sexual activity with a partner.
  2. Causes significant distress if done compulsively and uncontrollably, against the greater desire of the individual to stop.
  3. Interferes with daily activities of life.
  4. Compulsively done in public or at socially inappropriate times.

No longer considered as being harmful, masturbation is thought to improve sexual health and interpersonal relationships, if after learning what is personally pleasurable this knowledge is shared with a partner.  Especially in the situation of Peyronie’s disease many partners use mutual masturbation to develop and refine techniques for a more satisfying sexual relationship, when more traditional sexual outlets are not an option.

Masturbation can contribute to sexual dysfunction in Peyronie’s disease

Men who habitually masturbate in ways that are not common with a sex partner – employing mechanical measures that produce an unusually intense stimulus, stroking with great pressure or unnatural friction, resulting in soft tissue damage of the penis – can become so accustomed and dependent on that particular level or type of stimulus that partner-sex becomes insufficient for sexual arousal and leads to retarded ejaculation.  When a man experiences this sexual dysfunction he finds it difficult or even impossible to climax during more conventional partnered sex.

Michael A. Perelman, PhD, clinical associate professor of psychiatry, reproductive medicine, and urology at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City and the president of the Society for Sex Therapy and Research states, “Any man experiencing any sexual dysfunction should ask himself if he’s masturbating in ways that produce sensations that differ from those he gets from his partner’s hand, mouth, or vagina.  If so, then he should consider what he could say to her to make the stimulation more similar — and how he could change the way he masturbates to make it feel more similar to what his partner does.”

Safe masturbation in Peyronie’s disease

Generally, the best and safest masturbation you can enjoy by yourself or with a partner is that which is most like vaginal stimulation.  This can be as simple as using the hand in a fist to surround the erection while applying upward and downward stroking, oral stimulus, or sex toys that feel like a vagina.   This kind of masturbation is therapeutic once the Peyronie’s curvature has been corrected and more traditional sexual encounters can be enjoyed once again.

Lastly, because penile injury is thought to be a prime cause of Peyronie’s disease, it is mandatory that all masturbation be gentle and well lubricated to avoid worsening of an already bad situation. For more information, click on “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex.”

Common Peyronie Treatment Problem

Peyronie treatment when husband does not help

A few weeks ago I received an email from a woman who wrote about the trouble she was having with her husband who did not want to cooperate with his Peyronie's treatment:

“My husband of 22 years developed a severely curved penis when his Peyronie problem started after taking blood pressure medicine.  The doctor who prescribed the drug that started this whole mess didn’t seem too upset.  He said we would just have to learn to live with it.

“My husband is a proud man, and he is taking this condition very badly.  He has withdrawn from me and refuses to discuss his condition.   He gets angry and shouts if I bring it up.  We have not had sex in over a year.  He keeps telling me it would be alright with him if I left him.

“What can I do to help him deal with this?”

I wrote back to her:

“Sorry to learn that your husband has withdrawn from his problem and from you.  It is important for you as a wife to remember that your husband’s reaction is very common.  Some men become emotionally devastated by the loss of their sexual ability and sexual identity that they just withdraw from the person they think they are hurting.  There are usually elements of shame and embarrassment that arise from the physical appearance of a severe penile curvature.  It can be very stressful and confusing for a woman in this situation who desperately wants to help.  It can hurt a lot.

“This subject is broad and deep.  In fact, because it is so common and important in Peyronie treatment I devoted a considerable portion of the 2nd book I wrote to this area of the relationship of any couple dealing with Peyronie's disease.  I suggest you go to the PDI website and order the book, “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex” to learn what you can do to help your husband, because there is actually a lot you can do.  To view information about this book, click “Peyronie’s Disease and Sex”    What you will find is that his inability to face his PD problem, his lack of communication with you, and his withdrawal from sexual contact are all related to fear and shame.  I believe this book will help you to understand what is going on inside him, and what you can do now to bridge the gap between you.

“Please let me know if you have any specific questions I can assist you with.”

Well, I never did hear back from that woman.  The story is very common in which a grown man behaves like a scared little boy when his physical appearance and masculinity are threatened.  It is unfortunate that some marriages get stronger under this stress, while others fall apart under this dark cloud.   There is help and a solid plan of action that many men find comforting and effective to treat their Peyronie problem.

The key seems to be for a woman to convince her spouse to get started with Peyronie’s treatment.  Once a man finds direction and takes control of his situation his attitude and behavior often change for the better.  Don’t allow your man to feel like a Peyronie victim.