June 1, 2015 PDI Newsletter
Greetings to all PDI and DCI Warriors,
Welcome to this June 2015 PD Institute Newsletter.
Spring is teasing us here in the Midwest; mostly cool weather lately, but we all know the hot weather is just around the corner. Hope everyone had a good Happy Memorial weekend, and recalled those who have fallen so we can stand so free.
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This month’s newsletter will use the familiar and popular format of presenting a simple exchange and blending of emails between one of your PD brothers and me. For those of you who are part of our DCI readership, please simply apply the ideas expressed here about PD treatment philosophy to what you are doing for your DC. Since PD and DC are so similar in many ways, everything that is said about PD treatment can be applied to DC treatment.
You will see that the man who wrote the emails we will use, referred to as RFXXXXX, is just starting to look for ideas and information about using natural Alternative Medicine. I do not know this for a fact, but I think you will agree with me that he is probably just a young fellow. What made me think that this would be an interesting and informative email exchange to share this month is that, like some people who I communicate with, while RFXXXXXXX is convinced that he knows what he has read he is really very confused about a lot of things. In his emails you will see the information overload and confusion that some people develop on the DCI and PDI sites that can be significant, and how this stands in the way of successful treatment. As everyone reads this month’s newsletter about RFXXXXX, I ask you to entertain the possibility that you also might be guilty of not understanding what you think you understand. Since you are engaged in self-treatment and bear the ultimate responsibility of correcting your DC or PD, it would be wise to take the time to double-check yourself on the basic ideas of your treatment program. Are you taking your supplements at the right time; are you correctly evaluating the physical characteristics of your fibrous tissues; are you following a sufficiently diversified plan; are you using your ultrasound, Genesen, DMSO and stretching therapies correctly? Are you positive you are using the therapies in your plan correctly? If you find that you are unsure about a point or two in your therapy plan, please send me an email and I will help you out.
While this email exchange on the surface appears to be about the use DMSO gel as a coupling agent for ultrasound therapy, it is more so about the larger and more important issue of how a person approaches the fundamental problem of selecting and using a Peyronie’s or Dupuytren’s treatment plan. You will see that RFXXXXX is trying to create and master his little treatment plan, but he seems to resist learning even the basics of how it should be done.
Read this series of combined emails like the back-and-forth of two people talking while one occasionally interrupts the other to make an important point or answer a question. To the 1st and 2nd emails from him I simply sent him a direct reply, but in the 3rd and 4th emails I blended my email reply into his email. To understand the flow of the conversation, keep in mind that the text in black is from RFXXXXX and the text in red is from me.
From: RFXXXXXX
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:34 PM
To: info@peyronies-disease-help.com
Subject: suggestions
Hi, i ordered the dmso gel and the super cp serum from you. i also have my own ultrasound machine at home, but i need help.. how do i apply these all together.. and can i mix the two liquids and put it on my scar tissue and then use the machine to rub it in? and how long do i have to use the machine? 3-5 minutes straight? or longer? thanks.
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Theodore Herazy <herazy@comcast.net> wrote:
Greetings RFXXXXX,
What size US machine do you have, a 1MHz or 3MHz unit?
Regards,
Theodore R. Herazy, DC, LAc
Peyronie’s Disease Institute
Dupuytren’s Contracture Institute
From: RFXXXXX
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 3:59 PM
To: Theodore Herazy
Subject: Re: suggestions
i have 3 mhz
On Saturday, May 9, 2015, Theodore Herazy <herazy@comcast.net> wrote:
Greetings RFXXXXXX,
Well, you are obviously trying to create your own treatment approach. Believe me, when you have PD it is not the time to start experimenting on your own by dabbling in different natural treatments. I believe you should be using a broader and more comprehensive treatment approach than the one you have in mind right now. If you are planning on using a minimal effort like a combination of ultrasound, DMSO and Super CP Serum, I believe you will be disappointed in the long run. There is nothing in the world wrong with these individual treatments, but they must be done correctly and they must be coordinated into a larger plan of action if you expect to help your Peyronie’s disease.
Look at it this way: If your house is on fire you can experiment with using a bucket of water at a time in certain parts of the blaze – you might be successful, but I doubt you could be that lucky. With so much on the line, this is not the time to start experimenting. You want the get the job done, right? If your house is on fire I think the best approach is to use every intelligent and tried method you can, all at the same time, as early as possible, from as many different directions as possible, in a massive effort to save your house – by overwhelming the fire you can increase your odds of success with a multiple-pronged approach.
What are you trying to do – treat your PD with ultrasound, or treat your PD with externally applied DMSO/copper combination? You must decide what you want to do. By your questions I get the idea that you are trying to do both at the same time. Either way, I think you are wasting your time because these two approaches are not large or diversified enough to stimulate a healing response. Peyronie’s disease is much too complicated and stubborn a problem to be corrected with such a limited treatment plan; I know because I have seen hundreds and hundreds fail when trying things like this.
Keep in mind that Super CP Serum cannot transmit sound energy and will not assist the US sound head to transmit the high-frequency sound waves of your US machine into your tissue, and might in fact reduce the ability of PDM DMSO (which does transmit ultrasound energy) from transmitting sound waves if you mix the two as you want to do. Someone just starting out can get into trouble when trying to invent a treatment approach on your own. Peyronie’s disease is a complicated subject, and there might be a lot of treatment approaches that you can think of or read somewhere that might make sense to you, but will not work well.
Since I do not advocate either of these two approaches that you appear to be using, I do not want to remotely suggest by replying to your email questions that I think your limited treatment ideas make sense or are going to be helpful. From my 14 years of experience I have seen many times that this kind of piece-meal treatment is usually disappointing and frustrating. I just want to get that stated so you understand my thinking. Both uses of DMSO – as a coupling media for US therapy, or as a topical treatment that can be combined with vitamin E or the copper of Super CP Serum – are good, but they must be combined with at least several other internal and external therapies for maximum effectiveness. In fact, any of the therapies you see on the PDI website are good, they must also be combined with others to maximize their effectiveness. This gets back to the important subject of synergy that I write about so much.
The answers to your questions about using the DMSO/Super CP Serum together are found in the paper that was given to you when you ordered these products; you really need to read and study the information that was sent to you. In case you do not have that information any longer I have added it to the top of this email as an attachment. Since you did not get your ultrasound machine from PDI, I have no idea about the sound head diameter or output capacity of your particular machine and I therefore cannot comment on how you should use it. Each machine is designed a little differently and I have no way to know the best way to use your particular machine. Perhaps you can ask the people you bought your ultrasound machine from to tell you how to use it for “a soft tissue injury.”
The two therapy items that you have purchased from PDI do not constitute a complete or effective treatment approach. I suggest that you get busy reading and studying the PDI website to learn how to go about using Alternative Medicine to try to assist your recovery from PD.
Regards,
Theodore R. Herazy, DC, LAc
Peyronie’s Disease Institute
Dupuytren’s Contracture Institute
On Saturday, May 9, 2015, Theodore Herazy <herazy@comcast.net> wrote:
Greetings again RFXXXXXX,
Please see below for comments…
Regards,
Theodore R. Herazy, DC, LAc
Peyronie’s Disease Institute
Dupuytren’s Contracture Institute
From: RFXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 10:45 AM
To: Theodore Herazy
Subject: Re: suggestions
Theodore, obviously you are mistaken. Have you read and understand the pdi website? I hope so. I wrote the whole blessed thing. If u read carefully it says to use the ultrasound with DMSO for best results, then it says to add cp serum for even better results. No, that is not true. The PDI site does not say to add Super CP Serum to the DMSO when using the DMSO as an ultrasound conduction gel. When used as an ultrasound conduction gel the DMSO is used by itself; only when the DMSO is used as a topical treatment is it recommended that the DMSO be combined with vitamin E oil and/or Super CP Serum. I fear you are just reading small bits and pieces of the PDI site and then confusing the information. You really need to take more time to slowly read the main parts of the website that discuss treatment. The same ultrasound machine that the website has is the exact same model i have, power i got according to the details. No that is not true. If you have a 265 horsepower car and I have a 265 horsepower car that does not mean we have the same car. It only means that our engines have the same energy output, but they can have many other differences that will affect how they are used. Just because you have a 3 MHz ultrasound machine does not mean it is the same as the 3 MHz machines you find on the PDI website. Do u understand how an ultrasound machine works?. Well let me tell u. U need some sort of gel like DMSO so that your skin won’t get burned. No, that is not the reason to use the DMSO gel. The purpose of DMSO gel is as a conduction gel, to help the sound waves to pass from the face of the chrome surface into the body; the gel is a physical link or coupler between the metal sound head surface and the skin so that the sound energy can be transferred into the body. Without a gel or conduction medium the sound energy cannot pass from the metal head into the skin; the sound would just stay in the sound head and overheat, quickly destroying the machine. All I need to know from u is not for u to try to keep selling me diff products right now or say that this message will not work because every person is different and one method might work so I’m trying this method. You are certainly free to try any method you wish or any modification of the PDI approach. Yes, we are all different, so what works for one person might work for another. By that reasoning, how about smearing strawberry jam on your shaft? That might also work because we are all different, and you might just be the guy who is helped by strawberry jam – but I doubt it, and I think you get the point I am trying to make. I have been at this for a very long time now, and I am trying to help you by pointing out that what you are attempting to do has a zero probability of success. I have a feeling you want to try this isolated and specific solo treatment approach to save money by keeping your treatment plan as small as possible while still looking for something that will help you. But, I am obligated to tell you that the use of such small Alternative Medicine therapy plans have not worked so many times in the past that I am convinced you are wasting your time and your limited funds. The PD websites and discussion boards are loaded with 100s and 100s of comments saying, “I tried vitamin E and it did not help me,” “I tried DMSO and it did not help me,” “I tried acetyl-L-carnitine and it did not help me,” and the list goes on. In other words these people tried to do just a little bit of this or a little bit of that, and they found their tiny plan did not work. That is why I am saying that when you combine the vitamin E, DMSO, acetyl-L-carnitine, PABA, coenzyme Q 10, and a bunch of certain therapies from the PDI site you increase the odds that these things will work for you. I know this to be true because this is the way I beat my PD, and I have seen hundreds of people help their PD the same way. I am always curious when I read what these people say about natural therapies not working for them. Did they use a good quality product? Did they take it every time they were supposed to, or did they forget sometimes? Did they try this approach for a reasonable time, or did they quit after just a few weeks? When you read about these failures on the PD forums you do not know the real story, the whole story. At first, many people try to limit the size of natural Alternative Medicine plan just as you propose for a variety of reasons, usually to save money. As a result they are frustrated by failure and say that this Alternative Medicine approach does not work, not realizing that they did it all wrong. I want you to avoid that same kind of mistake that wastes time, energy and money. I am merely trying to tell you what I have found that does work for a good percent of people. But, you can approach your treatment in any way you decide; you are the boss. out right now so it does say the ultrasound machine can work and is more effective if using DMSO or the other serum together so I’m asking a specific question and I’m looking for a specific answer how do I use them together like it says on the website You are confusing yourself and incorrectly recalling the things you think you have read. As I mentioned in the first email this AM, but perhaps I did not state it clearly enough: You do not use Super CP Serum with DMSO as an ultrasound contact gel; the DMSO is used alone when it is used as an ultrasound contact gel. However, DMSO can be combined with Super CP Serum and/or vitamin E when used as a topical or external therapy. TRH Thanks
Greetings one last time,
Please see below again for comments…
Regards,
Theodore R. Herazy, DC, LAc
Peyronie’s Disease Institute
Dupuytren’s Contracture Institute
From: RFXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 1:22 PM
To: Theodore Herazy
Subject: Re: suggestions
Ok. Thanks for explaining. So your saying I buy every single product u have in order for it to work? Not at all. You are again telling me I said things I did not say. Please read that last email more carefully or you are going to get yourself in trouble. You must read more to learn how to go about putting together a decent size and balanced treatment plan; one or two different therapies used together will do nothing; the number that works for most people is around 6-8 different therapies that are used both internally (things like vitamin E, vitamin C, PABA, MSM, acetyl-L-carnitine, etc.) and externally (things like ultrasound, DMSO, gentle stretching, etc.) Some people who use even a wider variety of therapies and they always seem to do better than those folks who use fewer. Or, to make things a lot easier for you to get started right, you can choose from the three plans that shown on the PDI website, some people do it with a small plan while others use a large size plan. Look here to get started thinking about diversification of treatment http://peyronies-disease-help.com/new-customer-how-to-select-treatment-plan/ And the cp serum advertising u have says that just using this alone has been known to work. You are again making things up, RFXXXX. Nowhere have I written anything like that. Super CP Serum has absolutely no special ability by itself to get down deep enough to affect the PD scar tissue, and for this reason it must be combined with DMSO to do you any good. In fact, no one therapy in the PDI lineup is good enough or effective enough to get the job done; they all must be used as part of a larger group to muster up the repair process to overcome the PD scar. So also so your agreeing wit me that I can use the DMSO with the ultrasound? And when applying the DMSO how long do I have to wait to apply? I sent you the information how to use the DMSO as a topical treatment in that attachment I sent to you, remember? Just please read what I sent to you. To use PMD DMSO as a US coupling agent you simply squirt on a small amount over the area you wish to treat and immediately follow your instructions for operating the machine and the length of time that constitutes an ideal treatment. Be sure to use small overlapping circles when you apply the sound into the tissue that lies directly over your scar. Treatment time with the model PDI sells is 10 minutes; I have no idea what is the suggested treatment time with your particular machine. I hope this helps you, RFXXXXX, because I can see that you are struggling. If you want to discuss your problem further you will have to set up a phone appointment time and I will do my best to help you. TRH
For now, this is the conclusion of my discussion with RFXXXXXX, and the end of this issue of the PDI Newsletter. I have not heard back from him again. I hope he does well, and I hope all my newsletter readers were able to benefit from this exchange of information. I have worked with many people like RFXXXXX who come to PDI and DCI with their minds made up, who ask questions but do not seem to listen to the answers. Please try to keep an open mind.
Enjoy the warmer weather coming our way as spring becomes summer. Stay focused on your treatment plan. See you next month. TRH
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