What about the use of emu oil for treatment of Peyronie’s disease?

Hi.

I read about DMSO's ability to carry into the skin. Emu oil I have heard also does this. Do you have thoughts on this? I wonder which would be better/more effective? Emu oil comes from a bird's skin and DMSO is a wood-processing by-product. Neither one sound very appealing to me but the bird skin at least seems a bit more natural.

Thanks.

Greetings,

Most medical usage of emu oil is for the topical treatment of skin conditions (hives, shingles, psoriasis, etc.)  and other problems (arthritis,weight loss, earaches, flu symptoms, etc.)  

Little serious investigation has been done about the carrier ability of emu oil to bring chemicals and drugs it is combined with into the body, as DMSO does.  

From my experience I have found that many men who have attempted to use emu oil in this way for treatment of Peyronie's disease and usually disappointed, and only make progress when they switch over to using DMSO as a carrier.  TRH

How often and for how long do you recommend moist heat for the Peyronie’s scars?

How often and for how long do you recommend moist heat for the Peyronies scars?   Thanks, Roger

Greetings Roger, 

Use moist heat prior to the topical or external therapy (DMSO application or especially manual stretching technique) to bring blood to the area of your Peyronies scars.   For this reason it will be more efficient to perform these together as a group so you do not have to do it several times a day.
However, it is probably not advisable to use moist heart immediately prior to Genesen therapy since it would easily throw off any level of tissue sensitivity and make it falsely look like EVERY place you touch with the pens are active – when this is not actually true.  You would wind up wasting your time by treating points that did not need it although they appeared to need it.
5-10 minutes is a good time range to apply the heat.  You are only attempting to draw blood to the area of the shaft, and it does not take that long to dilate the blood vessels for that purpose; you are not poaching meat.   TRH


How long to wait between using DMSO and intercourse?

Dr. Herazy,

Thank you for your time a moment ago when we spoke on the phone. If I may impose upon you for one last question: How long between application of DMSO to the shaft of the penis and sexual engagement should there be to avoid "sharing" the DMSO with your partner? Or, is this not something that one needs to be concerned with due to the benign nature of the substance?

Thanks,

Foster

 

Greetings Foster,

If you read on PDI website about DMSO you will learn that about 7-8 minutes after application for Peyronies disease treatment all DMSO is essentially gone from the surface of the skin and is being chemically taken deeper into the tissue; actually most is gone in 5 minutes or so.  Nonetheless, I suggest washing the shaft prior to intercourse because the penis shaft is covered with common skin as is the majority of the body, but inside the vagina is found a mucus membrane layer of tissue, similar to the inside of mouth or sinus passages.  This thin and delicate tissue might respond differently than the rest of the body – better safe than sorry.   TRH

Any suggestions for using a DMSO “wrap”?

Hi Dr.Herazy my question is about using "wraps" im only using DMSO/Vitamin E/Castor oil wrap, im just curious what is the best way to leave a cloth/wrap that a guy uses to keep it in place, i tried using duct tape to keep the cloth on my penis it works but the thing is i can't keep it in one place, kinda loose on my penis so i feel like my penis isn't getting the complete benefit if i were to find a tighter wrap or bandage somewhere at or store… because i can't keep the cloth from sliding off, so i would like to know is there something i can buy like at Walmart or something im thinking of a way to keep the cloth adhere to the penis skin so i'll know the wrap with the 2 oils are getting into the plaque online some websites say to use a rubber band to keep it in place but that frightens me, so what is the best way and a place i can find a wrap that can adhere too the skin so it isn't so loose wrapped around the penis. It's so frustrating trying to use a DMSO wrap but can't keep it in place… any suggestions for people going this route?


Greetings,

Stop what you are doing for two reasons:

  • What you are doing is potentially dangerous – by applying prolonged compression to the penis with rubber bands or duct tape you cannot help but cut off blood circulation, and this is a good way to develop Peyronie's disease.  One of the proposed mechanisms of developing PD is by micro-reduction of blood circulation, and this is what you are doing.  Just like we are warned to release a tourniquet for a minute every ten minutes, you do not want to cut off blood circulation for too long to any part of the body.  Many men develop PD from using a "cock ring."  Your method of holding the wrap in place could easily do the same thing to you.
  • How you are using DMSO does not make sense – DMSO works in just a few minutes and does need to held in place for hours.  DMSO is a great PD therapy, but it must be used correctly and safely.   When you buy DMSO form this website you will be given complete instructions how to use it properly and without harm to you.  There is absolutely no reason to leave a "wrap" in place for hours on end, because nothing happens under that wrap after a very short time.  Your DMSO does its maximum work in the 1st seven minutes or so after you apply it to the skin, and after that not much happens. Using DMSO is not like sunbathing, when the longer you do it the more will happen.   If you feel a sensation of warmth, it is only because you have your shaft wrapped in a cloth that is covered by plastic.    

It is really amazing what dangerous and upside down thinking I see on the Peyronie's disease forums from people who promote ideas without knowing  what they are doing.  I think you were given some bad information.    

You are apparently, for some reason you did not explain, using a modification of the Thacker's formula.  If you intended to use the Thacker formula you were given false information about that, also.

There is a better way to use DMSO, just go to the PDI website to read how it should be done.   

How often should a person with Peyronies use DMSO?

How often should a person with Peyronies use DMSO?  Can you use it daily with other topicals?   Will the stuff you put on after DMSO still go on?   Online it says put to put DMSO on LAST.  What if you put the DMSO on first is it still effective?

Greetings, 

Based on the basic nature of your questions about DMSO (how often to use it; combining it with other topical therapies; frequency of application) I have the sense that you have not gotten your DMSO from PDI.  Anyone who buys from PDI knows the answers to these questions and more.  PDI provides specific information and details for correct use with all the PD therapy products we sell.  We help you every step of your journey so you get the best results you can; you would not have these questions if you were dealing with PDI.  And this brings me to my biggest concern about you…

Some men make the mistake of using the highest concentration OF DMSO they can find, thinking that stronger is better and it is not.  You cannot use effectively use a high concentration DMSO for PD treatment very long without it quickly irritating the delicate skin of the penis.   This is why PDI offers the PMD DMSO brand of DMSO that was formulated in cooperation with Stanley Jacobs, MD, the man who in the late 1950s did the first medical DMSO research on humans.   Our DMSO formula has the best concentration for PD treatment, and it also contains PABA, MSM and urea for added benefit.  No other DMSO product is made specifically for Peyronies treatment but our PMD DMSO. 

Lastly, I must mention that you need to be very careful what you combine with DMSO when it is on your skin.  You mention applying "stuff" with DMSO.  This concerns me.  I have had contact with many men who decided to experiment by applying all types of chemicals along with DMSO over their PD scars.  Some men have crushed up and diluted drugs, applied solvents, slats and hormones and added DMSO to their experiments.   All of this can be extremely dangerous and counterproductive.  Please do not experiment with DMSO in this way.     

Now that I have had my say about DMSO in general, here are the answers to your questions:

DMSO can be used up to three times daily. 

It can be used daily with other appropriate safe topical therapies. 

It is best to apply DMSO last if you are also using other topical therapies; if you apply DMSO first there will still be reduced transfer of those topical therapies you applied first.     

Do you think this is a bad idea?

Can you tell me what you think of using DMSO and possibly vinegar since it contains acetic acid, i used it and it didn't hurt but the mixture got very warm to almost hot, and it wrinkles the skin, i got this on a website… Wikipedia and other sources say….Diluted acetic acid is also used in physical therapy to break up nodules of scar tissue via iontophoresis. So can't you use dmso to deliver the acetic acid in vinegar similar to iontophoresis to break up peyronie's plaque? Do you think this is a bad idea to try?

 

Greetings,

Yes, I think this is a bad idea.  You got lucky that you only felt a hot sensation and that it just wrinkled your tissue.  I suppose had you left the vinegar on longer, or used it a second time, or in some other way increased your exposure to it, you would have probably developed a deep and serious burn of the penile tissue.  Do you know what would have been the likely result of a burn-injury to the deeper tissue of the penis for someone who already has Peyronie's disease?  More Peyronie's disease. 

Acetic acid of vinegar is a dangerous acid that will affect different tissues of the body in a variety of ways. The thin tissue of the entire genital region is unusually vulnerable to a burn injury caused by acetic acid.  When it is combined with DMSO the damage can be even more severe. 

Please do not do use vinegar again this way for your Peyronie's disease.  TRH  

Does DMSO cause infertility?

Does DMSO have any long term side effects i.e does it affect fertility in any way?

 

Greetings,

There are no reports or studies that connect the use of DMSO and infertility in humans whether related to Peyronie's treatment or other health problems.  There are reports of veterinary medicine using DMSO to treat infertility in horses and dogs related to fibrosis of tissues that are a part of the reproductive system.   TRH

What is the difference between DMSO in gel and liquid form?

Online the PDI site says your DMSO LIQUID is more effective than the GEL. I fear the topicals I use won't penetrate as deeply if i were to use the liquid? How is effectiveness different?  Thank you.

Greetings,

Both the gel and liquid format are effective in their own way, depending on what you want to accomplish. Read DMSO in Peyronie's Therapy.

We have determined that the DMSO liquid penetrates faster than the gel, but not only a little faster.   And we have determined that the DMSO gel penetrates deeper and carries more therapy agents with it.  For this important reason in 2009 PDI converted both the Dusa Sal DMSO (Dupuytren contracture) and PMD DMSO (Peyronie's disease) products to being made with a gel base.  It makes sense to sacrifice a little speed of penetration to gain depth and amount of therapy delivered to the tissue involved.   TRH

What are the best two choices to treat Peyronies?

 

Hi again.  Between PMD DMSO, Super CP Serum and Unique E oil what are the best two choices to treat Peyronies?   How do I go about using them?    Monty

Greetings Monty,

You are asking a question no one can answer.  You must apply these therapies to yourself to learn exactly which is most effective for you.  The PMD DMSO is always used because it will bring the other two deep into the tissue; therefore the choice is between the Super CP Serum and the Callisto oil.  Because of the low cost, most men use all three of these.

From your question it is obvious you are trying to approach Peyronies treatment from a minimal standpoint, and this is doomed for failure.  You must treat PD treatment aggressively and with a broad approach.   Also, using only external therapies (PMD DMSO, Super CP Serum and Unique E oil) only is also not a good idea; you must also use internal therapies (vitamin E, vitamin C, MSM, PABA, acetyl-L-carnitine, etc.). 

How any or all of them is actually used is provided when you receive your order.  You are given everything you need to be successful.  TRH

 



If I can’t find the Peyroinie’s plaque where is DMSO gel applied?

Dr. Herazy,

My order arrived last week, and today I started the treatment.  I’m very upbeat that I made the right decision. I have carefully reviewed all the documentation and explanations that came with my order.  It is very impressive how well you prepare your customers to work with their Peyronie’s treatment products.

The one item that I’m most confused about is the PMD DMSO gel.  Exactly where is this gel applied?  My instructions say that the topical therapies should be applied over or on top of the location of the Peyronie’s plaque or scar. I do not have any scar. I don’t have a problem shaving as described but I do not have a scar either on the part to be shaved or the penis. Or, when they mention scar, do they mean the part of the penis that is abnormally hard?  Please advise.  Randy

 

Greetings Randy,

Actually, if you have Peyronie’s disease you do have a plaque or scar.   However, the scar is not external or superficial, it is internal and below the surface. It is located under the skin surface and within the tissue of penis called the tunica albuginea.  The scar or plaque is not visible from the surface; you cannot see it.  The closest you can come to actually seeing it is if the scar is so large and thick that it raises or elevates the penile skin above it and you can see the raised lump of tissue because of the large scar below the surface.  

In order to be successful you really want to get to the point that you know the size, shape, density, and surface quality of your scar(s). If this is a new concept to you, I suggest you get the 1st book I wrote “Peyronie’s Disease Handbook.” It will help you immensely.

Scar location is sometimes a complicated topic, especially in the case of multiple scars or plaques. You can expect to find at least one scar at the point of greatest concavity of your distortion. Again, this is a topic of such concern and importance that you really should get at least that one book so that you know what you are doing in regard to monitoring your scar. The physical change in your scar is going to guide your therapy; it will direct you to the best use of your therapy plan. to assist you with this subject, please go to Difficulty Finding the Peyronie’s Plaque.

To answer your question about where to apply the DMSO gel and related external therapies, they should be applied directly over the area of Peyronie’s plaque or scar.  You do not need to apply these external therapies to the entire shaft, unless, of course, you have a wide spread pattern of scars over most of the penis.  TRH