Any suggestions for using a DMSO “wrap”?

Hi Dr.Herazy my question is about using "wraps" im only using DMSO/Vitamin E/Castor oil wrap, im just curious what is the best way to leave a cloth/wrap that a guy uses to keep it in place, i tried using duct tape to keep the cloth on my penis it works but the thing is i can't keep it in one place, kinda loose on my penis so i feel like my penis isn't getting the complete benefit if i were to find a tighter wrap or bandage somewhere at or store… because i can't keep the cloth from sliding off, so i would like to know is there something i can buy like at Walmart or something im thinking of a way to keep the cloth adhere to the penis skin so i'll know the wrap with the 2 oils are getting into the plaque online some websites say to use a rubber band to keep it in place but that frightens me, so what is the best way and a place i can find a wrap that can adhere too the skin so it isn't so loose wrapped around the penis. It's so frustrating trying to use a DMSO wrap but can't keep it in place… any suggestions for people going this route?


Stop what you are doing for two reasons:

  • What you are doing is potentially dangerous – by applying prolonged compression to the penis with rubber bands or duct tape you cannot help but cut off blood circulation, and this is a good way to develop Peyronie's disease.  One of the proposed mechanisms of developing PD is by micro-reduction of blood circulation, and this is what you are doing.  Just like we are warned to release a tourniquet for a minute every ten minutes, you do not want to cut off blood circulation for too long to any part of the body.  Many men develop PD from using a "cock ring."  Your method of holding the wrap in place could easily do the same thing to you.
  • How you are using DMSO does not make sense – DMSO works in just a few minutes and does need to held in place for hours.  DMSO is a great PD therapy, but it must be used correctly and safely.   When you buy DMSO form this website you will be given complete instructions how to use it properly and without harm to you.  There is absolutely no reason to leave a "wrap" in place for hours on end, because nothing happens under that wrap after a very short time.  Your DMSO does its maximum work in the 1st seven minutes or so after you apply it to the skin, and after that not much happens. Using DMSO is not like sunbathing, when the longer you do it the more will happen.   If you feel a sensation of warmth, it is only because you have your shaft wrapped in a cloth that is covered by plastic.    

It is really amazing what dangerous and upside down thinking I see on the Peyronie's disease forums from people who promote ideas without knowing  what they are doing.  I think you were given some bad information.    

You are apparently, for some reason you did not explain, using a modification of the Thacker's formula.  If you intended to use the Thacker formula you were given false information about that, also.

There is a better way to use DMSO, just go to the PDI website to read how it should be done.   

How to use Thatcher’s formula for Peyronie’s disease?

Doctor, I have one question. How does someone use Thatcher’s Formula (DMSO + Castor Oil + copper) for Peyronie’s disease? Over the last few months I have researched various PD topics I have found a few random posts about this formula and how to apply it using flannel and warm heat…if you have any more specific information, would you kindly pass it along? Thank you for your time and information, Bill

Greetings Bill,

Yes, I know about using Thacker’s formula. Thacker’s formula has bounced around a lot for many years in Peyronie’s disease discussion groups, and has achieved something close to cult notoriety.

The first thing you should know about Thacker’s formula is that it does not contain copper. It contains, DMSO, castor oil and apple cider vinegar. It is essential that you do not use this therapy, or any other, based upon what you pick up here and there on the various Peyronie’s forums where many untested and untrue ideas are promoted – like the notion that Thacker’s formula contains copper.

My suggestion to you is to first use a well balanced and aggressive Peyronie’s therapy plan such as you see on the PDI website, while you carefully monitor your scar for changes in size, shape, density and surface features to give evidence to your progress. Our PDI therapy plans have been used since 2002 with success and are based on reasonable science and positive research findings. This makes more sense to me than using Thacker’s formula by itself. I would agree that you should consider using Thacker’s formula along with other therapies in a combined effort, just as we recommend combining other PD therapies for best effect.

Please let me know how I can help you during your therapy effort. TRH


Thacker’s Formula – Other Peyronie’s Treatment Questions

Thacker's formula and other Peyronie’s disease treatment questions

Perhaps a few times a month someone emails a question to me about Thacker's formula.  This legendary Peyronie’s treatment – called Thacker’s formula because of the Dr. Thacker who is said to have created it – contains a specific ratio of Castor oil, DMSO and apple cider vinegar.  Although I know the exact proportions to make this Peyronie's treatment I will not disclose this information here because I can not provide in this space all the details for correct use that are necessary to use it correctly and safely.

Along a similar line, I am sometimes asked if I know anything about using various things like herbs for herbal Peyronie’s disease treatment (ginkgo biloba, echinacea), a micronutrient (Coenzyme Q, EPA), or some type of old home remedy (garlic, Castor oil, olive oil) that might be used as a Peyronie’s disease cure.   They want to know what I would think about using the Thacker's formula or other treatment, and why don't any of these types of treatment appear in the PDI lineup of therapies?

In order for any therapy or procedure to be included in the PDI lineup of 14 potential Peyronie’s treatments, it has to have either been applied specifically in treatment of PD in a series of scientific studies and proven at least 50% effective in several trials (even though it might have done poorly in others), or it must have demonstrated good success and acceptance within the scientific community for treatment of other unrelated health problems (acupuncture and homeopathy).  With this simple criterion we establish some level of scientific credibility for those therapies in our PDI lineup, and further increase the possible effectiveness of therapy when several of these are united in a synergistic program of care.

There are probably some really good Peyronie’s disease treatment ideas that could be actually very effective.  But who among us wants to spend his time, effort, money, and most importantly, his opportunity to get over his Peyronie’s disease by experimenting with theories that have absolutely no proven ability to influence the body to promote healing? I did not want to waste my time on theories of questionable merit, when I knew there were many available that had already achieved some level of success.  This last group seemed to be a better place to look for answers, than chasing unproven ideas.

Edgar Cayce’s castor oil pack might indeed be an effective Peyronies’ disease treatment, but for one reason or another it has not been subjected to even minimal scrutiny for PD.  The goal of recovering from Peyronies is too great to use an untried treatment, when there are so many others of higher credibility and logic to work with.

Thacker's formula does not meet Peyronie's treatment guidelines

PDI was started on the basis of using treatments of some level of known and proven merit, and uses this standard today to determine what additions will be recommended and used in future therapy plans.  Rumors, stories, and speculation you read about on a Peyronie’s forum are not enough.  Alternative Medicine employs early science to see through the maze of superstition and learn the truth of what may or may not work to regain health.  These are the principles used to formulate the current Peyronie’s disease treatment strategies you have learned about.  We are already working on the outer rim of established medical practice, but we must be careful to not go too far away from common sense and valuable scientific information that will help us achieve our health goals.

Usually, my suggestion for someone who wants to use such a new Peyronie’s treatment is to do it in combination with several other known and better proven therapies already in the Peyronie's Disease Institute lineup.  This way there is back-up treatment, and the total effort will create a therapeutic synergy.  Never is it suggested to use only the one therapy of any type, proven or unproven.

So, if you are just adding in an extra type of therapy because you read about it on a Peyronie’s forum, I say, all the more power to your curiosity and sense of adventure, but please do not use it exclusively as the treatment you provide for yourself.

While there is no reason to believe there is any potential harm in using Thacker's formula correctly, and perhaps great therapeutic benefit,  at this time I cannot endorse the use of Thacker's formula because it is essentially untested and unproven in any meaningful way.  There is a lot of good information about sensible Peyronie’s disease treatment, with reasonably good results in research testing, that should be used in a broad based  rehabilitation program.